After I read Daph & Luke blog ...I really make me wonder ...What will make me fall in to despair ....Maybe in the future ...wife , children & family all die at one shot ba ....Hope to experience that at least once in my life .

I get I brough up in a way .Where many things is reason with logic ??

For eg. when I saw this "no biblical evidence to suggest that the desperate act of troubled person will prevent him from ever entering the presence of God"

I was like that there no biblical evidence said the person wont ....right ? hahah

Even after reading the link daph I still agrue with it ....

For example :All who do not trust Jesus alone, by faith are not forgiven and go to hell when they die .

Q: Do we always trust jesus alone ....Even me myself cant say that .

After reading the first part ...A question ring in my head again

Q:How do you ask for forgiveness when you are dead ?? Is it when your soul see god one-on-one then you ask ???

Let continue reading .....

Suicide is, in effect, self-murder. The unfortunate thing about it is that the one who commits it cannot repent of it. The damage is permanently done. We can see in the Bible that murderers have been redeemed (Moses, David, etc.), but they had opportunities to confess their sins and repent. With suicide, the person does not. But that does not mean the person is lost. Jesus bore all that person's sins, including suicide. If Jesus bore that person's sins on the cross 2000 years ago, and if suicide was not covered, then the Christian was never saved in the first place and the one sin of suicide is able to undo the entire work of the cross of Christ. This cannot be. Jesus either saves completely or he does not.

Is suicide always wrong?

That I cannot answer because I cannot list every possible situation. But, it seems obvious that suicide is clearly wrong, though forgivable. However, there are general categories of suicide that we could briefly comment on:

Medically Assisted Suicide - I've never seen this as being acceptable. The doctor is supposed to save life, not destroy it. But, lately as destroying the lives of the unborn is more common place, destroying the lives of the sick has become the next logical step.

Suicide to prevent prolonged torture - Let's say that someone was being tortured in an excruciating manner for an unbearably long period of time, is suicide an option? Perhaps. But if it were in this situation, why wouldn't it be all right in the medically assisted context if the patient were also in excruciating pain for long periods of time? Quite honestly, I'm not sure how to answer that one.

Suicide due to depression - Of course, this is never a good reason for suicide. Seasons pass and so does depression. The one who is depressed needs to look to Jesus and get help. Depression is real and powerful and is best fought with help. Also, severe depression robs the mind of clear thinking. People in such states are in a real way, not in their right mind.

Suicide due to a chemical imbalance in the brain - The human brain is incredibly complex and the medical community is full of accounts of extraordinary behaviors by people whose "circuits got crossed." I don't see how a situation like this would make it justifiable. I think it simply would make it more explainable.

Accidental suicide - Sometimes people accidentally kill themselves. This could mean leaning over a balcony too far and falling to one's death, or actually, purposefully taking a stupid risk like playing with a gun. Of course, with either, stupidity does not remove us from the grace of God.

Conclusion
Is the Christian forgiven for suicide? Yes. But suicide is not an option. We do not have the right to take our own lives. That belongs to God.

Therefore it DOS ...Depend on situation ....

Q: What if no one give you an option , you have only one option which is suicide ? How ?hahah lame question ....

I cant really say I know why my life is so tough compare to other maybe is the way I was brought up I may think .

But i dont think so ..I still felt it under god plan still .
Since my youth day , ppl had being asking me "Why" I faced so many problems ...Sometime I really want to tell them ."Like I want like that ask god la he so free".

Sometime I look at ppl with frens encouraging them in things ....My heart will like "wow so good how I wish I had too" hahah truefully speaking " I grown up without out much encouragement from man do I have a choice....I doubt so "

Many things push me to growth ...for example , I was taught if you want to grow , just find ways to grow .if you have the will you have the way....That one reason why I am who I am today ...but also not forgetting god la ....

Curious what is install in the future .........What is despair for stephen ???? Looking forward & not looking forward...Mixed hahah

Bring it on god challenges my logic ....i know I will lost ...But in order to influence the more logically I need to lost ...

http://www.carm.org/questions/other-questions/if-christian-commits-suicide-he-still-forgiven
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